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| Phase | To be able to Play | Patriots | Royalists | ||||||||
| Stands | Men | Horses | Guns | Total | Stands | Men | Horses | Guns | Total | ||
| 1 | Battle of Chacabuco (12 Feb 1817) | 60 | 153 | 45 | 6 | 204 | 51 | 135 | 39 | 8 | 182 |
| 2 | Assault on Talcahuano (6 Dec 1817) | 36 | 104 | 11 | 6 | 121 | 34 | 128 | 0 | 26 | 154 |
| 3 | Battle of Cancha Rayada (19 Mar 1818) | 16 | 40 | 0 | 8 | 48 | 42 | 117 | 18 | 4 | 139 |
| 4 | Battle of Maipo (5 Apr 1818) | 10 | 30 | 0 | 2 | 32 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Totals | Totals | 122 | 327 | 56 | 22 | 405 | 127 | 380 | 57 | 38 | 475 |
My principle was to get all the figures I need for a unit for the entire campaign the first time the unit appears in a battle. This is basically so I get consistency in painting.
For example, the Cazadores de los Andes had 500 men at Chacabuco, none at Talcahuano, 839 at Cancha Rayada, and 639 at Maipo (Fletcher, 2005). Rather than get five stands for 500 men in Phase 1, then another three stands to take the unit to 839 men in Phase 3, I have opted to get enough figures for the largest (eight stands) in Phase 1. That means, for example, that most of my infantry battalions will have 8 stands and 24 figures.
I had a look at the Wargaming Figures available and decided to use those from Grenadier Productions as much as possible. That applies even if that means waiting until the appropriate figure is released - I've marked these as "Wait GP" in the lists below. If Grenadier Productions are't going to make the figures then I've used the nearest alternative.
One of the main problems is guns. I need French 4lb, 6lb, and 8lb guns and 5.5" howitzers for this project and I'm looking for a range the does all of these. Some of the 4lb guns would be mountain guns and I can wait for Grenadier Productions to produce them. But that does mean the range I select must be compatible with the, as yet unreleased, Grenadier Productions guns. Most of the ranges I looked at (Essex, Chariot, Minifigs, Gladiator, AB, Irregular, Naismith) have significant gaps. The possibilities seem to be:
Fantassin / War Modelling
NG-01 Gun (4 Pounds)
NG-02 Gun (6 Pounds)
NG-03 Gun (8 Pounds)
NG-04 Gun (12 Pounds)
NG-05 Howitzer
I've rejected this range because reviews say the Fantassin guns are "chunky", making them incompatible with the forth coming mountain guns from Grenadier Productions. And Roland doesn't like Fantassin because they are hard to clean up.
So the next choice is QRF / Frei Korps
NAG01 French 4pdr gun x 2
NAG04 French 6pdr gun x 2
NAG02 French 8pdr Gun x 2
NAG03 French 12pdr gun x 2
-- no French howitzer but the British Howitzer has twin tail carriage … --
NAG07 British 5.5" Howitzer x 2
The references section lists the full range I have used. Unfortunately the sources disagree on uniform details so this section outlines the priority order.:
Flags are based on my best guess Flags for 1817-18 Chilean Project.
The Spanish adopted the Gribeauval system in 1792 but in the Americas some Valliere's probably stayed in service. Most paintings show varnished wood carriage for all cannon.
Roland has started completing figures for my Argentine Army of the Andes.
The Patriot army at Chacabuco is Argentine in origin. All the major Argentine units appear and will be used throughout the rest of the campaign.
| Origin | Name | Flag | Stands | Figures | Figures | Comments | |||
| Men | Horses | Guns | Total | ||||||
| Argentine | General San Martin | - | 1 | 3 | 3 | 6 | Wait GP: Generals | ||
| Division Commander | - | 3 | 6 | 6 | 12 | Wait GP: Generals | |||
| Argentine | Artillery (4lb) | - | 6 | 12 | 6 | 18 | Wait GP: Patriot Artillery | ||
| Argentine | Cazadores a Caballo de la Escolta del General | - | 6 | 12 | 12 | 24 | Wait GP: Generic Cav | 2 Squadrons | |
| Argentine | Granaderos a Caballo | - | 12 | 24 | 24 | 48 | 4 x PS003 Argentina Granadero a Caballo Cavalry (shako/command)
4 x PS002 Argentina Granadero a Caballo Cavalry (shako/saber) |
4 Squadrons of 3 stands. All with Sabre. | |
| Argentine | 7th Infantry Regiment | 8 | 24 | 24 | PSU-004 Argentina Infantry 1813-1823 UNIT PACK | Formed from freed black slaves | |||
| Argentine | 8th Infantry Regiment (8th Battalion of Free Negroes) | 8 | 24 | 24 | PSU-004 Argentina Infantry 1813-1823 UNIT PACK | Formed from freed black slaves | |||
| Argentine | 11th Infantry Regiment | 8 | 24 | 24 | PSU-004 Argentina Infantry 1813-1823 UNIT PACK | ||||
| Argentine | Cazadores de los Andes (Cazadore Infantry Regiment #1) |
8 | 24 | 24 | 3 x Fantassin UN-31 British Rifles Marching
1 x Fantassin UN-30 Command Light Infantrymen |
Officers should not wear pelisse. Need a standard bearer. | |||
| Argentine | Grenadier Battalion | 1 | 3 | 3 | Just need an extra command stand with officer, drummer, grenadier | ||||
| Argentine | Cazadore Battalion | 1 | 3 | 3 | Just need an extra command stand with officer, drummer, cazadore | ||||
I am using a slightly different Orbat to Fletcher (2005) based on thoughts on the Cazadores a Caballo:
| Current Orbat | Suggested replacement |
| 1 Squadron Escolta del General (150-elite) | 1 Squadron Argentine Cazadores a Caballo de la Escolta del General (150-elite) |
This is the first army to face, and be defeated by, San Martin. The infantry wore the old style double breasted blue jacket. Historically many of the units ceased to exist. Although they only appear once in the campaign I've opted to build both this army, with the blue jackets, and the subsequent white uniformed guys for several reasons:
| Origin | Name | Flag | Stands | Figures | Figures | Comments | |||
| Men | Horses | Guns | Total | ||||||
| General | 1 | 3 | 3 | 6 | Wait GP: Generals | ||||
| Division Commander | 3 | 6 | 6 | 12 | Wait GP: Generals | ||||
| American | Artillery (4lb) | 8 | 24 | 8 | 32 | Wait GP: Royalist Art | |||
| American | Carabineros de Abascal | 3 | 6 | 6 | 12 | Wait GP: Generic Cav | Supposedly 2 Squadrons, but do 1. | ||
| American | Concordia Hussars | 6 | 12 | 12 | 24 | Wait GP: Generic Cav | 2 Squadrons | ||
| American | Frontier Dragoons | 6 | 12 | 12 | 24 | Wait GP: Generic Cav | 2 Squadrons | ||
| American | Chiloe Battalion | 8 | 24 | 24 | Wait GP: Old Royalist | Blue uniform. Use two stands for the Valdivia Battalion. | |||
| Spanish | Talavera Regiment | 8 | 24 | 24 | Wait GP: Old Royalist | Green uniform. | |||
| American | Los Angeles Regiment (Chilian Regiment) | 8 | 24 | 24 | RNSU-001 Royalist Infantry 1818-24 UNIT PACK | White uniform. Appears in phase 1 as part of Chacabuco What if from the Liberators Supplement. Was key part of Talcahuano garrison. | |||
By phase 2 I'll already have all the Argentines I need for Talcahuano, so it is just a matter of adding the Chilean units to the Patriots.
| Origin | Name | Flag | Stands | Figures | Figures | Comments | |||
| Men | Horses | Guns | Total | ||||||
| Chilean | General Bernardo O'Higgins | - | 1 | 3 | 3 | 6 | Wait GP: Generals | ||
| Chilean | Artillery (6lb) | - | 6 | 18 | 6 | 24 | Wait GP: Patriot Artillery | ||
| Chilean | Caballeria Cazadores de la Escolta Directorial | - | 6 | 12 | 12 | 24 | Have to add epaulettes to ...
2 x PS003 Argentina Granadero a Caballo Cavalry (shako/command) 2 x PS002 Argentina Granadero a Caballo Cavalry (shako/saber) |
2 Squadrons | |
| Chilean | 1st Infantry Battalion | 8 | 24 | 24 | PSU-003 Chile Infantry 1817-1823 UNIT PACK | ||||
| Chilean | 2nd Infantry Battalion | 8 | 24 | 24 | PSU-003 Chile Infantry 1817-1823 UNIT PACK | Use this unit for the Chilean National Guard Battalion. They had the same uniform and flag, and the two units didn't appear in the same battle, so I only need one. The 2nd Battalion appears in more scenarios. | |||
| Chilean | 3rd Infantry Battalion | 8 | 24 | 24 | PSU-003 Chile Infantry 1817-1823 UNIT PACK | ||||
| Chilean | Engineers | - | 1 | 3 | 3 | 1808 Spanish Fusiliers from Battle Honours | Wore a bicorn | ||
I am using a slightly different Orbat to Fletcher (2005) based on thoughts on the Cazadores a Caballo:
| Current Orbat | Suggested replacement |
| 2 Squadrons Chilean Cazadores a Caballo (246-regular) | 2 Squadrons Chilean Caballeria Cazadores de la Escolta Directorial (246-regular) |
The Royalists in the Talcahuano scenario comprise guns plus the Los Angeles Regiment. And a lot of both. The Los Angeles Regiment is meant to deploy as 9x100 + 4 x 200 contingents. I've opted to use an amalgamation of units for Lost Angeles rather than building one huge unit. I was going to use the Arequipa Regiment but John Fletcher, when hinting about new research, suggested I use the Conception Regiment instead.
| Origin | Name | Flag | Stands | Figures | Figures | Comments | |||
| Men | Horses | Guns | Total | ||||||
| American | Fortress Guns | 26 | 104 | 26 | 130 | Wait GP: Royalist Art | |||
| American | Conception Regiment | 8 | 24 | 24 | Wait GP: Old Royalist | Blue uniform. | |||
Cancha Rayada demands a little more Chilean infantry.
| Origin | Name | Flag | Stands | Figures | Figures | Comments | |||
| Men | Horses | Guns | Total | ||||||
| Chilean | Coquimbo Cazadore Battalion | 8 | 24 | 24 | 1 x PS-010 Chile Infantry 1817-23 Command 3 x PS-009 Chile Infantry 1817-23 Cazadore |
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I am using a slightly different Orbat to Fletcher (2005) based on thoughts on the Cazadores a Caballo:
| Current Orbat | Suggested replacement |
| 3 Squadrons Chilean Horse Cazadores (342-regular)
1 Squadron Chilean Escort Cazadores (119-regular) |
2 Squadrons Argentine Cazadores a Caballo de la Escolta del General
(230-regular)
2 Squadrons Chilean Caballeria Cazadores de la Escolta Directorial (230-regular) |
All the remaining Royalist units appear at this battle. This is a completely new army from that destroyed at Chacabuco. Viceroy Pezuela sent the majority from Peru in late 1817. This force landed just a few days after the Assault on Talcahuano. Some of the Talcahuano garrison and cavalry from Southern Chile joined the new comers. The new infantry uniform was white.
| Origin | Name | Flag | Stands | Figures | Figures | Comments | |||
| Men | Horses | Guns | Total | ||||||
| American | Artillery (8lb) | 2 | 6 | 2 | 8 | Wait GP: Royalist Art | |||
| American | Howitzers (3.5") | 2 | 6 | 2 | 8 | Wait GP: Royalist Art | |||
| American | Arequipa Dragoons | 3 | 6 | 6 | 12 | Wait GP: Generic Cav | 1 Squadron. Use Carabineros de Abascal | ||
| American | Chillan Dragoons | 3 | 6 | 6 | 12 | Wait GP: Generic Cav | 1 Squadron | ||
| American | Lanceros del Rey | 3 | 6 | 6 | 12 | Wait GP: Generic Cav | 1 Squadron | ||
| American | Arequipa Regiment | 8 | 24 | 24 | RNSU-001 Royalist Infantry 1818-24 UNIT PACK | White uniform. | |||
| Spanish | Burgos Regment | 8 | 24 | RNSU-001 Royalist Infantry 1818-24 UNIT PACK | White uniform. | ||||
| Spanish | Infante Don Carlos Regiment | 10 | 30 | 30 | RNSU-001 Royalist Infantry 1818-24 UNIT PACK | White uniform. | |||
| American | Zapadores | 1 | 3 | 3 | Wait GP: Old Royalist | Blue uniform. 1 company | |||
| Mix | Grenadier Battalion | 1 | 3 | 3 | Wait GP: Old Royalist | The Royalist Granadero and Cazadore battalions were composites built from the flank companies of the 4 battalions in the army: Burgos, Arequipa, Infante and Concepcion. Just need a command stand | |||
| Mix | Cazadore Battalion | 1 | 3 | 3 | Wait GP: Old Royalist | The Royalist Granadero and Cazadore battalions were composites built from the flank companies of the 4 battalions in the army: Burgos, Arequipa, Infante and Concepcion. Just need a command stand | |||
By Phase 4 we've just got to round out the Patriot army with some more artillery.
| Origin | Name | Flag | Stands | Figures | Figures | Comments | |||
| Men | Horses | Guns | Total | ||||||
| Chilean | Artillery (4lb) | - | 8 | 16 | 8 | 24 | Wait GP: Patriot Artillery | ||
| Chilean | Infantes de la Patria Battalion | 8 | 24 | 24 | PSU-003 Chile Infantry 1817-1823 UNIT PACK | ||||
| Argentine | Artillery (8lb) | - | 2 | 6 | 2 | 8 | Wait GP: Patriot Artillery | ||
I am using a slightly different Orbat to Fletcher (2005) based on thoughts on the Cazadores a Caballo:
| Current Orbat | Suggested replacement |
| 1 Squadron Argentine Cazadores a Caballo (120-regular)
1 Squadron Chilean Escolta Cazadores a Caballo (119-regular) |
1 Squadron Argentine Cazadores a Caballo de la Escolta del General(120-regular)
1 Squadron Chilean Caballeria Cazadores de la Escolta Directorial (119-regular) |
No new units.
In the attempt to reduce the number of figures I need to buy and paint I've left some units out of the plan.
| Origin | Name | Comments |
| Chilean | 2nd Militia Cavalry Regiment of Santiago | 1 Squadron. Only appears as optional reinforcement in Alternate Orders of Battle for Cancha Rayada and Maipo, so don't need |
| Chilean | Lancers | 1 Company. Good chance this is just a company in the Chilean Cazadores a Caballo, so might not need it. If you include it, then don't have a command figure as it is only one stand. |
| Chilean | 4th Infantry Battalion | Only appears as optional reinforcement in Alternate Orders of Battle for Cancha Rayada and Maipo, so don't need |
| Chilean | Ad Hoc Assault Party | Formed from other units so don't need this separately. Just use spare stands from other units. |
| Argentine and Chilean | Cazadore Battalion
and Grenadier Battalion |
Formed from other units so don't need this separately. At Chacabuco the mixed Cazadore and Grenadier Battalion was formed from the flank companies of the Argentine 7th and 8th Infantry Battalions. At Talcahuano the Cazadores and Grenadiers deployed in separate battalions, but once again they were formed from the flank companies of other units both Argentine and Chilean. |
| Chilean | National Guard Battalion | The Chilean Infantes de la Patria Battalion and Chilean National Guard Battalion seem to have had the same uniform, and didn't appear in same battle so I only need one. |
| Chilean | Santiago Military Cadets (Esculea Militar) | Can probably use other figures so don't need this unit. |
| Origin | Name | Comments |
| Mix | Ad hoc Skirmish Battalion | Use stands from the parent units. |
| American | Valdivia Regiment | Blue uniform. Use two stands from Chiloe. They had similar uniforms. |
| Mix | Cazadore Battalion
and Grenadier Battalion |
The Royalist Granadero and Cazadore battalions were composites built from the flank companies of the 4 battalions in the army: Burgos, Arequipa, Infante and Concepcion. Given this, I don't need this unit separately. |
It isn't clear from the various orders of battle which patriot artillery is Argentine and which Chilean. This the what I can figure out.
Fletcher (2005, 2006) says 7 x 4lbrs. He doesn't specify but these have to be mountain guns the Argentine army brought over the Andes.
Fletcher (2005) lists 6 x 6lbrs. The nationality isn't given but I assume Chilean given the bulk of the force is Chilean and the Chileans fielded a lot of 6lbrs at Cancha Rayada but the Argentines didn't field any at other battles.
Fletcher (2005) lists 33 Patriot guns; the Right Division has 10 x 4lbrs, the Left has 11 x 4lbrs, and the reserve has 12 x 6lbrs. Alternate Orders of Battle for Cancha Rayada and Maipo says the Left division artillery is Argentine and that in the reserve is Chilean. The Order of battle in Alternate Orders of Battle for Cancha Rayada and Maipo doesn't show artillery in the Right Division, but the text mentions a third, Chilean battery, which must be with this division. Combining this information we get the Right Division has 10 x 4lbrs (Chilean), the Left has 11 x 4lbrs (Argentine), and the reserve has 12 x 6lbrs (Chilean).
Fletcher (2005) lists 16 x 4lbrs (split evenly between Right and Left) and 4 x 8lbrs (in the Reserve). Alternate Order of Battle: Battle of Maipu, Apri 5, 1818 says the artillery in the Left and Right Divisions was Chilean and that in the Reserve Argentine. Combining this information we get 16 x 4lbrs (Chilean) and 4 x 8lbrs (Argentine).
| Origin | Name | Chacabuco | Talcahuano | Cancha Rayada | Maipo |
| Argentine | Artillery (4lb) | 7 | 11 | ||
| Argentine | Artillery (6lb) | ||||
| Argentine | Artillery (8lb) | 4 | |||
| Chilean | Artillery (4lb) | 10 | 16 | ||
| Chilean | Artillery (6lb) | 6 | 12 | ||
| Chilean | Artillery (8lb) |
The various sources are inconsistent about the Argentine and Chilean Cazadores a Caballo. In a discussion on the Liberators 1810-1830 Yahoo Discussion Forum, John Fletcher expressed the opinion that all references to Argentine Cazadores a Caballo and Escolta del General were in fact the Cazadores a Caballo de la Escolta del General. Similarly references to Chilean Cazadores a Caballo, Chilean Horse Cazadores or Chilean Escort Cazadores, are the Caballeria Cazadores de la Escolta Directorial. He recommended getting two squadrons of each unit for the Chilean campaign.
In the case of the Battle of Cancha Rayada the Argentine unit is mistakenly subsumed into the Chilean Horse Cazadores, and needs to be separated out.
Based on the above observations the orders of battle in should modified in the following way:
| Battle | Source | Current Orbat | Suggested replacement |
| Chacabuco | Fletcher (2005) | 1 Squadron Escolta del General (150-elite) | 1 Squadron Argentine Cazadores a Caballo de la Escolta del General (150-elite) |
| Chacabuco "What if" | Fletcher (2006) | 1 Squadron Escolta del General (150-elite) | 1 Squadron Argentine Cazadores a Caballo de la Escolta del General (150-elite) |
| Talcahuano | Fletcher (2005) | 2 Squadrons Chilean Cazadores a Caballo (246-regular) | 2 Squadrons Chilean Caballeria Cazadores de la Escolta Directorial (246-regular) |
| Cancha Rayada | Fletcher (2005) | 3 Squadrons Chilean Horse Cazadores (342-regular)
1 Squadron Chilean Escort Cazadores (119-regular) |
2 Squadrons Argentine Cazadores a Caballo de la Escolta del General
(230-regular)
2 Squadrons Chilean Caballeria Cazadores de la Escolta Directorial (230-regular) |
| Cancha Rayada | Alternate Orders of Battle for Cancha Rayada and Maipo | 2 Squadron Argentine Cazadores a Caballo (342)
1 Squadron Chilean Escolta de Director (119) |
as above |
| Maipo | Fletcher (2005) | 1 Squadron Argentine Cazadores a Caballo (120-regular)
1 Squadron Chilean Escolta Cazadores a Caballo (119-regular) |
1 Squadron Argentine Cazadores a Caballo de la Escolta del General(120-regular)
1 Squadron Chilean Caballeria Cazadores de la Escolta Directorial (119-regular) |
| Maipo | Alternate Orders of Battle for Cancha Rayada and Maipo | Argentine Cazadores a Caballo & Chilean Escolta de Director (938) | 4 Squadrons Argentine Cazadores a Caballo de la Escolta del General
(469)
4 Squadrons Chilean Caballeria Cazadores de la Escolta Directorial (469) |
| Maipo | Alternate Order of Battle: Battle of Maipu, Apri 5, 1818 | San Martin's Escort (14/264)
4 Squadrons Argentine Cazadores a Caballo (26/393-regular) 4 Squadrons Chilean Cazadores a Caballo (19/500-regular) |
5 Squadrons Argentine Cazadores a Caballo de la Escolta del General
(40/657-regular)
4 Squadrons Chilean Caballeria Cazadores de la Escolta Directorial (19/500-regular) |
Regarding the quality rating of these units, John Fletcher had this to say:
I reduced the quality of all the Patriot Cazadores a Caballo to regular in 1818 based on my opinion of their performance in the campaign. In my opinion they were adequate but not spectacular. This might be due to the Cazadores a Caballo operating in this "converged" unit that caused so much OB trouble, whereby the superiority of one squadron may have been nullified by the inexperience of another or it might be my personal bias looking for a balanced wargame. In any event, it's how I see things. The cavalry lost in a skirmish with the Royalists earlier in the afternoon at Cancha Rayada; they did not halt the Royalists at Cancha Rayada (indeed, the Granaderos left the field in disorder) and the Cazadore charge at Maipo was effective in driving the Royalist cavalry from the flank but became bogged down in the mass melee against the Burgos battalion. A decent but not spectacular record; hence the regular rating. Liberators 1810-1830 Yahoo Discussion Forum.
Fletcher, J. (2005). Liberators! Volume 1: The War in the South. Grenadier Productions.
Fletcher, J. (2006). Liberators! Supplement 1: The War in the South. Grenadier Productions.
Grenadier Productions specifically:
Alternate Order of Battle: Battle of Maipu, Apri 5, 1818. Fletcher cites “Las Fuerzas Armadas de Chile” as the source for the data in these orders of battle.
Alternate Orders of Battle for Cancha Rayada and Maipo. Fletcher cites Soria (2004) as the source for the data in these orders of battle.
Argentine Flags of the War of Independence, 1810-1824
Uniform: Argentine Cazadores a Caballo de la Escolta del General.
Hooker, T. (1991). The Armies of Bolivar and San Martin [MAA 232]. Osprey.
Liberators 1810-1830 Yahoo Discussion Forum
Regimientos de América specifically
ROA: Uniforms of Maipo specifically
ROA: Argentine Infantry
ROA: Argentine 8th Infantry Battalion
ROA: Chilean Infantry
ROA: Argentine Cavalry
ROA: Chilean Cavalry
ROA: Royalist Cavalry
ROA: Argentine Artillery
ROA: Chilean Artillery
ROA: Royalist Infantry Plate 1
ROA: Royalist Infantry Plate 2
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